Death

[Linebeck]

I think this is the right forum. My step dad just passed two minutes ago, I would like to write a speech for him in mando'a. Any help would be appreciated.

[Linebeck]

Ni su'cuyi, gar kyr'adyc, ni partayli gar darasuum
Ni su'cuyi, gar kyr'adyc, ni partayli gar darasuum. Jim.

[Belandrie Meave]

I'm sorry for your loss, vod.

Without knowing you or your stepdad, I can only offer this.

O’r ibic aay’han, ni partaylir gar. Par ner ular, vor entye. Par ner cyare, ni yaimpir cyare. Gar nu kyrayc tuu gar gai bat cyare’se’urame, tuu mhi partaylir gar. Gar taab’echaaj’la, al nakar’tuur ni ven’olaror ogir, bal mhi ven’urcir tug’yc.

In this time of mourning, I remember you. For your care, I thank you. For your love, I return love. You are not dead while your name is on your loved ones’ mouths, while we remember you. You have gone far away, but someday I will arrive there, and we will be together again.

[Linebeck]

Thank you, ner'vod.

[Vazquar Tra'tabuur]

Ibac cuyir shabla ka'ra (because I don't believe jate'kara would be the appropriate word to use), vod. My condolences.

[Vazquar Tra'tabuur]

I'm curious about how Mandos would view suicide. For example, would it be considered an act of cowardice, would it be considered an insult to life itself, would one shame his or her family by taking their own life, etc. I realize that this is not the original topic of this thread, but it interests me and is related, so I figure it's one worth discussing. Any thoughts, anyone?

[Linebeck]

I'm curious about how Mandos would view suicide. For example, would it be considered an act of cowardice, would it be considered an insult to life itself, would one shame his or her family by taking their own life, etc. I realize that this is not the original topic of this thread, but it interests me and is related, so I figure it's one worth discussing. Any thoughts, anyone?

I think this would be an appropriate topic to post that question, however, you would probably get more answers if you made a different topic for it.

[Aarlaya]

I'm curious about how Mandos would view suicide. For example, would it be considered an act of cowardice, would it be considered an insult to life itself, would one shame his or her family by taking their own life, etc. I realize that this is not the original topic of this thread, but it interests me and is related, so I figure it's one worth discussing. Any thoughts, anyone?

I put my answer in a spoiler so that if anyone wasn't comfortable reading it they wouldn't have to.

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This seems like an issue where a lot of the response would depend on the context: did the person in question leave relatives behind who would depend on him? If so, I think that would probably be frowned upon, like if a parent committed suicide and left living children. But I think that taking your own life from a place of loneliness or desperation might be met more with sympathy and concern, considering the importance of relationships in the culture. Suicide in a situation where the person is facing a long death, maybe capture or perhaps a medical diagnosis would be understood a little more, I think, but part of the latter would depend on their medical model, which does not exist.