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Want to learn Mando'a? Hopefully I can help
Posted: 30 Jan 2011 03:35
by Cuyan Atinii
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This lesson has also been translated into German.
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Discussion Thread
So this is
Lesson 1: Basics
After getting your
dictionary dictionary and
quick grammar guide quick grammar guide from
here here, it’s time to start learning to use Mando’a.
First, read the Mando’a Quick Grammar Guide to understand the basic foundation of this language.
Now then, let’s start –
Speaking the Language –
Most of the pronunciation is covered in the Mando’a Quick Grammar Guide.
What I add here is simply what I consider more accurate based on actual Mando’a dictionary pronunciations.
- E – sometimes pronounced “eh” in the middle of a word
O – sometimes “aw”
C – usually pronounced “s”, but is pronounced “k” when before “a”, “o”, or “u”
Sentence Structure -
First, look at these sentences,
- “Nobody cares who your father was, only the father you’ll be.”
“Gar taldin ni jaonyc; gar sa buir, ori wadaas’la.”
The word-for-word translation is, “Your bloodline not important; you as father, very valuable.”
And,
“Mando’ad draar digu.”
“A Mandalorian never forgets.”
While not strictly defined, Mando’a sentence structure appears to generally be setup very similar to Basic. At the same time, the most important part of written or spoken Mando’a is clarity, so your word order should convey meaning to the reader or listener, even if it doesn’t fit this structure.
Hopefully more soon.
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Want to learn Mando'a? Hopefully I can help. Lesson 2
Posted: 04 Feb 2011 03:29
by Cuyan Atinii
Lesson 2: More Basics
The Beten -
The
beten is the word for the apostrophe used in Mando’a. A beten is sometimes used to indicate a slight glottal stop, or in some cases can also indicate pronunciation, breathing, or dropped letters.
The beten is also often used to link a prefix or suffix to the main word:
e.g.
Nu'briikase (un-happy),
Ori’dush (very-bad)
The beten can also connect words, as explained below.
Compound Words -
What are 'compound words'? Two (or more) Mando'a words, usually connected by a beten. Compound words, in this sense, create words with new, more precise meanings.
Examples of Mando'a compound words from KT's dictionary -
Jetii'kad - lightsaber (jedi-sword)
Epar'yaim - restaurant (eat-home)
Kar'taylir - to Know, hold in heart (heart-hold)
('Compound word' is my own term. If you have a better/more official name, please tell me.)
Memorization -
Yes! To learn Mando'a, you're going to need to actually know the words it's made up of!
To start off, here's five pronouns -
- I, me - Ni
My, mine - Ner
You, your - Gar
He, him, his - Kaysh (also She, her, hers)
They, their - Val
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Thats it for now. Please: comments, questions, critiques, etc.
Want to learn Mando'a? Hopefully I can help. Lesson 3
Posted: 26 Jan 2012 04:50
by Cuyan Atinii
Lesson 3: Basic Word List
Before I write anything else, I'm going to give a short explination.
Mando'a is essentially either a very simple language or an extremely complicated code. It just depends on how you treat it. It has identical rules to that of Basic except where outlined above, and probably won't be getting any very soon. So, the best way to learn Mando'a after you've got an understanding of what I've written in the last two lessons is to start using it.
I personally write my journal in Mando'a (my thoughts are safer than if locked up). I encourage you to do something. Read existing Mando'a text. Translate something. Write a book, poem, or song. Teach your friends. Whatever. By simply using it you will begin learning it.
That out of the way, here are the most commonly used Mando'a words. They're a great foundation to build your vocabulary on.
- 1 the – te, haar (rarely used)
2 be – cuyir
3 to – bah, at
4 of - be
5 and - bal
6 a, an – eyn (raraly used)
7 in – o’r
8 that - ibac
9 have - ganar
10 I, me - ni
11 it - bic
12 for - par
13 not - nu
14 on - bat
15 with - ti
16 he, him, his - kaysh
17 as - sa
18 you, your - gar
19 do - vaabir
21 this - ibic
22 but – a, a’, al
24 by - de
25 from - teh
26 they, their, theirs - val
27 we, us - mhi
28 say - sirbur
30 she, her, hers - kaysh
31 or - ra
33 will – ven’cuy
34 my, mine - ner
35 one - solus
36 all - an
38 there - ogir
38 which, what, that, who – meg (megin before vowel)
41 so - bid
42 up - laam
43 out - dayn
44 if - meh
46 who – tion’ad
49 go - slanar
51 when – tion’tuur
52 make, create – gotal’ur
53 able to, can - liser
54 like - guuror
55 time – ca’nara
56 no - nayc
57 just, only - shi
59 know, hold in heart – kar’taylir
60 take - hiibir
61 people - adate
62 into - lo
63 year - simir
65 good - jate
66 some - ge'sol
67 could – ret’liser
69 see – haa’taylir
70 other - ashi
71 more than – ori’shya
73 now - jii
76 come, arrive - olaror
77 its – be’bic
78 over - jaon
79 think, calculate - mirdir
80 also - balyc
81 back - norac
83 use - pirimmur
84 two – t’ad
86 our, ours - cuun
87 work - borarir
88 first – sol’yc
89 well, healthy - jahaala
92 new - vaar
93 want - copaanir
94 because - jorcu
96 these - ibice
97 give - dinuir
98 day - tuur
99 most – ’ne (suffix)
You may notice I'm missing about twenty words, but if you actually count grouped words it comes up to 99 (I think).
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Thats it for now. Please: comments, questions, critiques, etc.
Re: Want to learn Mando'a? Hopefully I can help
Posted: 18 Apr 2014 17:40
by Cuyan Atinii
This page is getting a bit cluttered with discussion.
Discussion is good, though, so I decided to make
this thread. Post questions, responses, spotted errors, and such there.
Re: Want to learn Mando'a? Hopefully I can help
Posted: 19 Jan 2021 18:49
by always21
Wow! Why are you knowing Mando'a so well? Where did you learn this? It's great! How can I come to this? I'm just beginning, looking what's the best way to learn it.
You surely know the phrase "this is the way" from the Star wars series " the mandalorian". I couldn't find a translation to Mando'a so far. Can you give me one? How does a real Mando say it? My first words....
Thanks
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Re: Want to learn Mando'a? Hopefully I can help
Posted: 23 Jan 2021 23:41
by Vlet Hansen
The strictest way to say it would be someithing like "Ibic cuy Yust" or "Ibic haar Yust", but Mandalorians simplify when they can, so just "bic yust" works as well.
Re: Want to learn Mando'a? Hopefully I can help
Posted: 18 Feb 2021 22:46
by ca'tra
I hadn't seen "yust" prior to downloading Mandor.pdf - any idea where it comes from?
I'd been using "Ibic te manda," which I had previously encountered searching random discussions online. The logic behind it was that while "the" (haar/te) is usually dropped, in this case it was significant enough to merit inclusion, and rather than translating "way" directly (path, etc.), the use of "manda" would imply "this is the essence of being Mandalorian."
Admittedly new to the language, but curious to learn more.
Re: Want to learn Mando'a? Hopefully I can help
Posted: 20 Feb 2021 19:30
by Vlet Hansen
Yust is the root word for paths and roads, you can see it in things like go'yust (combining the word for construction and engineering, referring to a built road) and yustapir (river, using the word for water) and yustarud (perimeter, referring to circles). The common element is yust, clearly referring to a path or way.
Manda is a great alternative given the context in which the phrase is used.
Re: Want to learn Mando'a? Hopefully I can help
Posted: 21 Feb 2021 18:35
by ca'tra
Thanks for the explanation about yust, I hadn't encountered it yet. I've just started delving into the canon-adjacent vocabulary shared here outside of the dictionary... impressive work! The forum is a great resource, and it's nice to be able to talk to folks who share an interest in the language (meatspace friends have been less enthusiastic thus far
).
Re: Want to learn Mando'a? Hopefully I can help
Posted: 22 Feb 2021 04:38
by Vlet Hansen
Yeah, the real trick is getting people to agree
I think we have as many dialects as we do speakers :p
Re: Want to learn Mando'a? Hopefully I can help
Posted: 23 Feb 2021 00:50
by ca'tra
Ha! All good. I do some writing at work and it's hard enough to get the group to agree on a brief passage in English. As long as we wind up with something that's understandable and doesn't break any cardinal rules, we're probably in good shape.